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[http://users.livejournal.com/_samalander/]

Hello!
So I've been superbusy with work and moving and not having internet at home and writing a McKenna/Giotto fic with bubbles_san so I've been ignoring this comm a little.

To make it up to you, I made a poll!

The first question asks if you're a reader or a writer. By this, I mean "do you only read, or do you sometimes play?" because I assume you're reading if you're writing. You'd be very confused if you weren't.

Anyway, on with the poll:
[Poll #1433708]

What I mean with the last one is: right now, we have a weekly post of alt.enterprise.gossip along with the other, more sporatic challenges and round robins. What if, every month, I took a popular theme from the last few weeks and made it the new weekly thing? So, next month would be genderswap or TOS. We'd keep playing in those worlds until it was time to change. You guys could even have oppinions about them!
(Because I can stop you from doing that now?)

I have plans for a new callenge either tomorrow or Friday, but I'm curious to see what you all are thinking now.

Also, would there be interest in a friending meme?

Comments

[captlebubbles.livejournal.com]

Case in point:

He's on trial about whether to stay in the fleet at all. He sneaks onto the ship- okay, he was the only one that realized what was going on, yes, but that's beside the point at the moment.

So he sneaks on the ship, right? Then, when things get a little hairy, the first officer gets promoted to Acting Captain- completely logical- and rather than promoting the second officer to first officer, as per the chain of command, the cadet who's about to get kicked out of the fleet gets promoted instead.

Later, after insulting Amanda (which you just don't do), he becomes Acting Captain and Saves the Day.

Which is all fine and dandy, and let's have a party.

What Should Have Happened:

He gets a medal. He gets cleared of charges. He gets promoted one rank (not six), and gets assigned to the Enterprise with the knowledge that if he keeps up as he does, then when he has a little more experience, he could be captain.

Instead, he becomes captain at 25, straight out of the academy, with absolutely no experience under his belt, and nobody (universe wise, I've seen sensible parts of the fandom complaining) sees a problem with this?

Example of the death thing:

In the novel 'The Captain's Daughter', when Chekov gets into a fistfight with Captain Harriman about causing his Sulu's daughter's death, he says that "Keptin Kirk vould have found a vay. She vould not have died." Chekov seems to think that no one ever died on Kirk's watch, and this was the attitude generally directed at him from all sides.


Now, can you honestly say that if you had someone in your life who was like Kirk, who always broke the rules and got away with it, who always got credit for other people's work, who always had to be the center of attention, can you honestly say that you wouldn't have a problem with him/her? Because I would, and I don't know why so many people apparently wouldn't.

(See? It is not just irrational hatred, I have given this thought.)

[suspirando.livejournal.com]

He was merited as they saw fit -- he saved the flagship, a polished captain, stopped a threat to the Federation of Planets as a whole that consequently destroyed another *whole* planet and one with a distinguished people at that, helped buy time to save some of the Vulcan people, and prevented the destruction of Earth. I mean..? "Oh great job, cadet. You are promoted one rank! Next time you save the Earth and the Federation, we'll think about promoting you again!" You know what I mean? He pretty much proved his competence, imo.

And with Chekov, that seems really circumstantial. It sounds a lot more like it's just wishful thinking on his part. Someone just died and he's trying to cope, like when someone loses a loved one and they're in denial? Like "Oh he wouldn't have died if.. x and x happened or if x was there." Y/N? He admires his captain. He just thinks he could've saved this person, because he's like a child (to me) and he thinks his great captain can do anything.

Or maybe that's me overthinking that hahaha, nvm in that case! But that's just the vibe I'm getting on.

Um, no I honestly can't say I wouldn't have a problem with him/her. I probably would *shrugs*

[captlebubbles.livejournal.com]

The question isn't whether he's competent enough to be a hero, it's whether he has the experience needed to run an entire ship for five years in space, with next-to-no in put from outside.

Chekov was in his- I think maybe fifties?- at the time that happened, so he's far more than a child. He's got experiences of his own under his belt, and anyway, I meant that just as an example of the attitude generally directed at Kirk re: lifesaving, not as an isolated incident. Kirk managed to kill off half his crew in just three seasons and everyone still acts like he's this giant hero just because he kept seven or eight specific people alive for five years.

Chekov

[(Anonymous)]

What's the deal with Chekov remaining an Ensign after all he did in the film?! He was smarter than Spock and should totally have been made a lieutenant!

Re: Chekov

[captlebubbles.livejournal.com]

He's not Kirk, therefore, the universe doesn't bow to his whims.

Re: Chekov

[http://users.livejournal.com/_samalander/]

My universe does. You know. The one I keep in my pants?

/dirty old lady.

You, Bubbleslady! Go write things! gooooooo!

Re: Chekov

[captlebubbles.livejournal.com]

I'm going! I'm going! Also, Spock totally wasn't about to listen. He probably was all "...Actually, Captain, I am far too busy and I think you should get someone else to do it."

Re: Chekov

[http://users.livejournal.com/_samalander/]

No one else could take her out and you know it. Kirk'd call in Leslie and Galloway and they'd be like "...you're kidding, right?" and Caroline would just laugh.

Re: Chekov

[captlebubbles.livejournal.com]

Yeah, but to take her out Spock would have to touch her and he'd get a whiff of her strong very-much-on-the-surface emotions and no one wants that.

Re: Chekov

[http://users.livejournal.com/_samalander/]

Lucky for them, she knows he's the only person on the ship who can take her and didn't feel like calling the bluff.

Re: Chekov

[captlebubbles.livejournal.com]

This is why Giotto spent most of their time on the Farragut trying to steal her for Security.

Re: Chekov

[http://users.livejournal.com/_samalander/]

She wasn't interested. No death wish. Anyway, who wants to defend idiots when you could be flying?

Re: Chekov

[captlebubbles.livejournal.com]

That didn't stop him trying. He's currently also trying to recruit Chekov. He will eventually succeed.

Re: Chekov

[http://users.livejournal.com/_samalander/]

No way! Not enough math in security!

Re: Chekov

[captlebubbles.livejournal.com]

Yes, but canonically, Chekov became Chief of Security after Giotto left/retired/got killed/something.

Re: Chekov

[http://users.livejournal.com/_samalander/]

Oh, fine. Be that way. Now, no more talking til you give me STORY.</small.

Re: Chekov

[captlebubbles.livejournal.com]

I'm working on it. Besides, talking helps me think.

Re: Chekov

[http://users.livejournal.com/_samalander/]

well, at the very least we should take it over to the story!post and stop bothering the nice people here.